Posts by Incognigo Montoya

people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

Incognigo Montoya

Lol... dude, it's not my fault you cant see reason and clearly the difference between a pharmacist refusing to sell a product he doesn't believe in, to anyone, and a tour bus company owner who says hateful discriminatory things towards a certain race of people AND harasses those who oppose him by posting private information about them in an obvious effort to try and hurt them.

If you refuse to see the difference, you're a lost cause.

I'm finished here. Have a great day!

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What Are Your Rights?

by Simon in

jw
friends

rights seem to be everywhere nowadays.

say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.

people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

Incognigo Montoya

Kim Davis was voted in to be an agent of the government. She should've conformed to government policy when she took office. If she could not, she shouldve resigned, or been thrown in jail for refusal to comply. She ultimately was thrown in jail, and her clerks started issuing licenses without her name. Notably she didn't just refuse to issue gay couples marriage licenses, but all couples, because she disagreed with the federal courts order to issue marriage liscenses to same sex couples. She didn't discriminate, choosing instead to deny all couples marriage licenses in protest of the federal courts decision. Completely different scenario. But, in a similar scenario, If the pharmacist works for Walgreens, and its their policy to provide birth control and the pharmacist refuses, its walgreens right to fire him, or provide another pharmacist who will fill the script. If however, it's the pharmacists pharmacy, a private business, it's his right to sell or not sell what he chooses.

While true, You can't, nor should you, discriminate, and refuse to sell products you carry to someone based on their skin color or sexual orientation, you can, and you should be able to refuse to sell an item because you choose not to.

You can make up hypothetical situations, or cherry pick anomalous incidents that, while wrong, and need to be dealt with, aren't the norm. What about all the other county clerks who were issuing marriage liscenses, indiscriminately? There are 95 counties in Tenn. If you were really hot to get a license, there were 94 other places you could've gotten one... Rules and Regs, the incident you cited happened back in 2014. While she remained county clerk, as voted in by her constituents, she and the government found a compromise and worked around the issue. As of January 1 2019, she is no longer the county clerk, as a new cc was took office. Problem resolved and the world moves on. Except you, and those who want to rehash it in an effort to point out how unfair it is.

If you want a free society, you have to allow people the right to make choices. You can not shield them from the pecuniary consequences of those choices (nor should they be). If you dont like their business practices, vote with your wallet. Take your business elsewhere. But you shouldn't be able to force them to abide by your wishes by taking them to court and make them sell you what you want. You can not have it both ways. You want the right to sleep with who you want? The right to decide your sexual orientation? The right to believe what you will? Those same rights give others the right to disagree with you. If you dont want me forcing my beliefs on you, you cant force me to conform to your beliefs.

Live and let live.

Simple

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What Are Your Rights?

by Simon in

jw
friends

rights seem to be everywhere nowadays.

say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.

people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

Incognigo Montoya

Lots of hypotheticals, rules and regs.

His right to choose, your right to go elsewhere. Simple

121

What Are Your Rights?

by Simon in

jw
friends

rights seem to be everywhere nowadays.

say hello to someone in the wrong way and you've violated 101 of their human rights.

people imagine they have the right to all sorts of things - food, healthcare, housing, internet ... so many things are labelled basic rights and then you get onto their human rights - a favourite of the do-nothing bodies such as the un to declare.

Incognigo Montoya

Free market, and your right to choose are wonderful things. Find another pharmacist who will fill your script and give him all your business. Tell your friends and give him all the business you can. If the other pharmacist goes out of business, that's his fault. But it's his right to choose what he sells and what he doesn't. The sign didn't say; anyone using birth control can not shop here. You can buy whatever you want from him, just not birth control.

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Mind Numbing Meetings

by minimus in

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friends

without a doubt, jw life is boring.

and those meetings!

5 congregation meetings, meetings for field service, elders meetings, judicial meetings, meetings to figure out who was qualified to clean the toilets....🤔.

Incognigo Montoya

I was gone by the time Tuesday night book study was done away with and the society recommended a family night, with dramas and building a model Ark, etc... when I saw that for the first time, coming back, I was kinda jealous. That would've been a whole lot more fun than sitting around for an hour, reading paragraphs, looking up scripture, and doing research with the family, knowing in another few hours you were gonna have to do it all over again. Grueling.

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Mind Numbing Meetings

by minimus in

jw
friends

without a doubt, jw life is boring.

and those meetings!

5 congregation meetings, meetings for field service, elders meetings, judicial meetings, meetings to figure out who was qualified to clean the toilets....🤔.

Incognigo Montoya

Shirley, yah, I hope I didn't come across as feeling sorry for myself. I knew kids, like you, who were drug out in fs every weekend, sorry, that must of sucked. and those congregations with later Sunday meeting times and odd weekday meeting schedules. I always felt sorry for the Spanish congregation. Seemed like they were the redheaded stepchild, always getting the crap meeting times. Late in the afternoon and even Saturdays.

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Mind Numbing Meetings

by minimus in

jw
friends

without a doubt, jw life is boring.

and those meetings!

5 congregation meetings, meetings for field service, elders meetings, judicial meetings, meetings to figure out who was qualified to clean the toilets....🤔.

Incognigo Montoya

Diogenesister, I couldnt agree more. It was a time waster. A brain washing technique. I quickly learned how to read the question first, skim the paragraph for the answer, underline, and move on. I always felt guilty for doing that, but looking back, it was necessary. As a kid I had other, more important things to do, like play!